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December 13, 2005

A conversation in my head

I had a conversation with myself on the train this morning. Product of not enough coffee and being very very tired from working last night. I don't know why the other voice is male, that's just how it sounded in my head.

Him: It is our responsibility to provide for those who cannot provide for themselves.

Me: But what about those who are able to provide for themselves, but are just lazy-asses?

Him: That's their choice. It's their life and their right to decide how to live it.

Me: So the rest of us should support those who just don't want to get off their ass and get a job?

Him: Some of them are going to slip through, but most of those on welfare really do need the help.

Me: That still doesn't answer my question. Should we be forced to support those people who are able to work but choose to not get a job?

Him: How do we know if they are truly unwilling to get a job? What if they are simply unable, and we take them off welfare because we judge them able?

Me: That's what checks and balances are for, and that is what appeals are for.

Him: But those rarely work.

Me: But that's a problem with the system, not with the concept of welfare in the first place.

Him: And what about those who aren't able to understand how to appeal?

Me: Again, that's a problem with the system. We need to be fixing the system itself, attempting to get those who are able off welfare and into a job.

Him: But then the issue of unemployment rates comes up.

Me: That's because creativity isn't fostered enough in schools. Kids are told to follow the book and learn the test rather than actually learning skills they need to be able to start their own businesses. With the advent of the internet, there are so many more opportunities which schools don't take advantage of. Just look at Pajamas Media. If they become a true blog wire, like the AP, but without the bias and hype, then there is a whole avenue for people. Web design, blogging, online companies - all of these are providing amazing opportunities that are not being exploited by schools and work programs.

Him: But then kids aren't trained for office jobs and manufacturing jobs. The material world will collapse in favor of the online one.

Me: Manufacturing jobs are rapidly being taken over by machines and automated. The industries that still require a personal touch won't fall by the wayside because people will still prefer that over creating their own business. The internet simply puts people in control rather than forcing them under someone else's control.

Him: So how do schools train kids in this new world?

Me: In the early grades, teach them WHY something works instead of just HOW. Kids want to learn. They're sponges. Give them projects every week to draw and create, and they'll lap it up. Start teaching them programming and foreign language early, and they'll be skilled by high school. It not only creates a better-educated workforce, but it also gives adolescents and teens more say in their own lives. All of a sudden, we will have a workforce that starts at 12 instead of 16, and those kids will be exploding with interest, love, and energy. It will move people off welfare, and it will solve this oft-commented on "problem" of apathetic youth (which I think is bullshit, but that's another conversation).

Him: And how do we pay for it?

Me: We will probably have to eat the costs early on, but once the economy skyrockets and new businesses are created (with the taxes that come from them), then the costs will be reabsorbed and negligent. Less money put into welfare and more on education and training, and you have an ever-increasingly productive system.

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Yeah, so I'll probably have more of these conversations in my head. They happen all the time, I just rarely transcribe them.

I still have one on apathetic youth and another on social security.

Posted by Kat at December 13, 2005 10:43 AM

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Comments

The only problem with your conversation is that it's not the least bit original. The details would change, but your conversation could easily have taken place between a young person and a middle-aged person in 1965, or 1925, or 1875, and probably in 1900 B.C.

What you'd need to do, if you don't want to be repeating the same old same old, is figure out a way out of this box: the people who are and must be in charge of preparing youth, i.e. the middle-aged, don't and can't have very much insight into what it's like to be young now. They only know what it *used to be like* to be young. So each generation prepares the next for the problems of 30 years ago. Not, as you point out, very bright. But how to change it?

Please try not to say something dumbass like "older folks should just listen up!" This would be the same old tired refrain, and besides, the middle-aged actually do listen to the young, as well as they can. It's harder to do than young folks think. Let us, instead, try to imagine some structural change in the way we educate young people that have the same effect as having them, through time machines, put their 35-year-old selves in charge of their K-12 education.

Posted by: Quadraginta at December 20, 2005 04:18 PM

Did I ever say the conversation was between a middle-aged person and a young person?

It was a conversation in my head. Both the parts were played by me.

I've already given solutions here and elsewhere. We are not stuck in a never-ending circle, because there are people already breaking out. The current 16-30 demographic is embracing technology and we are going to start demanding it everywhere, including in our childrens' schools.

I have already started a site to foster communication between adults and youth. Until I have time and money to devote to it, there won't be much there, but the entire concept is in my head, waiting to be created.

Call me a dumbass again, or be ageist, and I'll moderate all your comments. I don't tolerate any kind of bigotry here, including that based on age.

Posted by: Kat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2005 04:25 PM

I read a while back at some psychologist's blog that research has determined that the reason "voices" are usually male is that female voices are tonally more complex and thus harder for whatever (another part of your mind, demons, etc.) is communicating to synthesize.

Posted by: triticale [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2005 07:47 PM

Intriguing. I rarely have those sorts of definite conversations with myself, so I've never really recorded them and said "the voice is always x". It makes sense though.

Psychology is weird.

Posted by: Kat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2005 09:07 PM

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